tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN February 17, 2010 1:00am-2:00am EST
in congress broken, and how do you fix it? congressman ron paul and his son are running for senate. you watch a man pursued and stalked by a team of international assassins and he's a killer. he ends up dead. there's a global manhunt for the squad. watch it unford assist surveillance cameras recorded it. what do you do when your adopted child threatens to kill you? coping with the danger and heart break of a he child that needs parenting. first up the anger at washington. republican party chairman michael steele today sitting down with several dozen tea partiers. after the meeting when reporters asked if they were now loyal republicans, they shouted no. a lot of discontent out there. people can't stand congress. even congress people can't stand congress. >> i believe you can make a contribution, a major contribution to society in many ways other than just being in the united states congress. if congress is the only way to make a contribution, god help us.
>> democratic senator evan bayh this morning says congress is broken, out of control. partisanship is gone. that's why john breaux, a former colleague agrees. the center in congress is getting smaller. americans are losing patience. bill maher comments in a moment. tom foreman has the raw politics. >> anderson, 34% of voters think current members of congress deserve to be re-elected. 63% say throw the bums out. these are the worst numbers we've seen since we started measuring in the early '90s and both parties appear to be in equally deep trouble. the top democrat called for cooperation saying voters will tolerate nothing less. >> we're tired of the partisanship and the shouting and the pettiness. they know we can't afford it. >> reporter: the republicans say the same. >> we want results, not rhetoric. we want cooperation, not partisanship. >> reporter: and yet both
parties have failed repeatedly to reach such an accord. the past year saw a steady stream of party line votes with almost no democrats or republicans crossing over in the name of compromise. the democrats fought off republican filibusters 39 times with cloture votes. more than in the 1950s and '60s combined. while bitter fighting between and within the parties crippled health care and banking reform and spurred sharp complaints about even programs that passed like the stimulus plan. >> this government is out of control. >> reporter: no wonder retiring indiana senator evan bayh says -- >> even at a time of enormous national challenge, the people's business is not getting done. >> reporter: that theme is being echoed by many departing politicians amid soaring unemployment, a lingering housing crisis and gridlock, gridlock, gridlock. political analysts predict it could all produce a great many more upsets like the one that gave the late democratic senator ted kennedy's seat to a
republican. >> what happened here in massachusetts can happen all over america. >> reporter: after trailing a very long time, the republicans now have a statistically insignificant lead over the democrats in who voters want in congress. but that is cold comfort in a winter of great discontent. anderson? >> tom, thanks very much. we'll get bill maher's take on this shortly. first, the view of congressman ron paul and his son rand paul who is running to replace the retiring kentucky senator jim bunning. he's running against the gop establishment as a staunch conservative and proud tea party member. we spoke with him tonight along with his dad, ron paul. >> congressman paul, do you agree with senator evan bayh who basically said yesterday that things are so polarized in congress that the people's business isn't getting done?
>> well, the people's business isn't getting done, but i'm not so sure that we are on the right tune about where the arguments are. i don't think it's because people don't compromise enough. i think it's because they compromise too much. and they don't -- we don't have enough people standing on principle. for instance, a compromise on the welfare state. they compromise on the warfare state. they compromise on endorsing the monetary system. i think we have way too much compromise and we need to define what we believe in. we either believe in welfarism and socialism and big government or we believe in liberty and limited government and the constitution. >> dr. paul, do you agree with that? if you, do isn't compromise essential for actual governance? >> i don't think it's necessarily compromise that's the problem. what i see when i go around the country and around the state to these tea parties is that people want, on both sides, not to just be spending money wantonly like they are in washington. i hear equal criticism. they are worried about the debt,
but they say it's on both sides of the aisle, republican and democrat. we talk in my race about west virginia paving every inch of it based on senator byrd's seniority. we also talk about the fact that republicans from alaska have been earmarking and paving a lot of things up there, too. so the problems the tea party movement, we see it is on both sides of the aisle but not a lack of compromise. just sort of a lack of anyone standing up for the taxpayer. >> dr. paul, the criticism as you know of the tea party movement is that, you know, it's one thing to argue something in order to get a candidate in or to protest. but to actually govern requires a different set of -- i mean, it requires compromise. you don't believe that's true? >> well, i think the problem is we are compromising, but we compromise for more spending usually. for example, 32 states have a rule that says they have to balance their budget by law. i run on the platform that says federal government should be no
different. and when i say that as a tea party it brings down the house. they want their government to balance their budget. they see our future and our kids' future being destroyed by debt. so that's not republican and democrats compromising to spend half as much money. it's that we need new rules. so i talk about term limits and i talk about balancing the budget by law. and that's not necessarily a compromise. that's pushing them all in a big direction towards much more frugality. >> dr. paul, you've been endorsed by sarah palin. she's also endorsed senator john mccain in what could be a tough battle for his re-election. is john mccain your kind of republican? >> well, i think there are some things john mccain does that i like. i mean, he has been one of the republicans who will vote against some of the procurements, even in the military budget, when he sees waste in the military budget. he and i agree on everything? no, i didn't agree with mccain/feingold. i liked seeing the supreme court overturn it because i thought it restricted freedom of speech.
there won't be everything we agree on. there are some things i can agree on with john mccain. >> you said sarah palin is the biggest endorsement any republican can get right now. do you think she'd make a good president, doctor? >> i think what she has is something you can't buy. she has likablity. she's very likable. and i think she will have to, like i have to and like every other person, is run the gauntlet. >> the question though is, do you think she would make a good president? >> yeah, i think sarah palin could be a great president. but i think what will happen is what happens is the vigorous process of the primaries. and, you know, she hasn't said yet whether she'll do it or not. she's made some very astute and smart political moves. she's come out and supported me, of course, which i think is a great move. but i think she's supporting people who are running against the establishment and this motivates those in the tea party who want not just someone to endorse whoever the party favorite is, but someone who will shake up the system. >> and congressman, the republican establishment in
kentucky has not really endorsed your son, has not gotten behind him. why is that? >> i don't -- i don't know, but the republican establishment never endorsed me either. but after i win primaries, i was quite willing to work with them and vote for their leadership and do what i needed to do to be part of the party. i think randz's in a similar situation like that. they're not running to bail them out and support them. washington, d.c., hasn't rushed to help them. in this day and age, that's a badge of honor. let me tell you. it really is. >> congressman, do you guys agree on everything? >> well, i doubt that. i would say, you know, we have five children. i would say rand is probably the one to challenge me the most. >> can you envision a time when senator paul if you become senator paul, and congressman paul, are at odds? >> possibly. when i was home at thanksgiving, the whole debate was whether
they were going to let me sit at the -- still sit at the main table this time because we were having some disagreements. but in the end, they did let me eat thanksgiving at the main table. so, you know, my dad and i -- i like to use the word that i'm a constitutional conservative. my dad likes to call himself and has been called a champion of the constitution. and i think that's where there's a great deal of similarity. there will be some differences of opinion because a lot of us support the constitution. we don't always interpret it the same way. >> congressman ron paul and rand paul, candidate for u.s. senate. thanks for your time today. >> thank you. >> thank you. let us know what you think. join the live chat at ac360.com. up next, bill maher. he's a little upset but also very funny on the subject of partisanship. you'll hear from him ahead. the amazing story behind the videotape allegedly showing international assassins stalking their prey. at. mm. and the routan has everything we're looking for. plus, every volkswagen includes no-charge, scheduled, care-free maintenance.
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some people aren't exactly in love with washington or congress these days. part of it because we're digging out of a recession and the mood of the country is grim. there's a lot more to it. let's talk to bill maher. he's the host of "real time with bill maher." we spoke earlier tonight. senator bayh says things are so polarized, the people's business
isn't getting done. do you buy his business for leaving? >> he wasn't working. he's the problem with congress. that made me laugh. >> how so? >> he isn't a centrist. you in the media have to stop calling people like that a centrist. he's a corporatist. and that's the main problem with congress. his wife is on the board of wellpointe, one of the big health insurance companies. >> so you don't buy his -- >> so i'm not surprised he was against the public option. >> when he says congress isn't working, that's why congress isn't working because he's the guy on the democratic side who always sides with the republicans to stop all legislation. that's why the senate is where legislation goes to die. so bye-bye. >> do you think things are too polarized? >> they're not polarized enough. we don't have a progressive party in this country. this is the problem. you have corporate is democrats, like evan bayh who act just like the people on the other side of the aisle. >> do you think he'll become a lobbyist? >> it won't be really changing jobs. just offices.
>> what is barack obama doing wrong? you were a big supporter of his. >> sure. and i still have the situation in perspective. you know it would be a lot worse, i think, if the election had gone the other way. >> you compared him to lindsey lohan. >> i can't remember why, but you are correct. >> i think the line was, and i'm going to get it wrong, so i hesitate to even say it. something like, we read a lot about them, but still wondering what they are actually doing. >> you are young, skinny and in a hurry, but what your going to do? we're both getting the line wrong, but i know what you mean, yes. >> do you believe what he says. he says a lot. >> yes if only he knew someone in a position of power because he's got a great list of things he wants to accomplish. >> he doesn't -- >> he just thinks that -- he still is -- he makes the mistake that every democrat makes. he's really, you know, i think he's going to have a learning curve, as all presidents do. but he sure didn't have a great freshman year. he makes that mistake of
alienating his base, not playing to the base. trying to get the other people. >> so he's too quick to compromise? >> he -- he's trying to solve this with a kiss. it's not going to happen that way. obama was talking the other day about, well, you know, i would rather be a one-term president who got things done than a lame two-term. well, then get something done. you can only talk about being this bold, one-term president if you are being bold. he's not being bold. >> you say, though, there's not enough partisanship but you have the tea party movement which you've been very critical of. they are certainly partisan. >> well, they are great for comedy. they are a joke to me because they're supposedly harking back to the days of the founding fathers and what this country was about. that's not what they're about. they basically side with the republicans. who is more corporatist than the republicans? they are against corporate power, but they are on the side of people -- >> they say they're not about
parties. they are about people. that they are about -- they -- >> but they elected scott brown. wasn't that the first guy they got, ted kennedy, they got his seat, put scott brown in there. scott brown signs, when he signs an autograph, he puts on it 41 because he's the 41st senator. he can block all legislation. so he's going to stop health care reform. and he's going to stop cap and trade and all these things that would actually help people. the populist causes. but that's supposedly a virtue that he's 41. he's going to stop that? >> who do you blame for what's happened to health care? >> i mean, i blame a lot of people. certainly the people who were in the pockets of the insurance industries and the drug companies and all the corporate powers that have blocked this and don't want this to go through because the main problem with health care is insurance companies. this giant cash-sucking middle man that we don't need in the middle of it. but of course, i also blame the democrats for not being able to
sell this. there's an awful lot of good things in this senate bill that's already been passed. covers $30 million more people. medicare solvent until 2026. you know, you can't throw somebody off because pre-existing conditions. you know, it's not that there's not stuff to sell. it's just the democrats can't sell it. they are terrible salesmen and they back off of everything. all you have to do is scream a little and they give up on it. >> bill maher, thanks. >> thank you, anderson. pleasure. just ahead, the unexpected question that got the best answer today from secretary of state clinton. the question, what would you do if sarah palin were elected president? later your chance to pick the best in show. some of our staffers' dogs in honor of the other dog show going on at madison square garden tonight. pick the best dog by going to ac360.com. a lot more ahead.
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astonishing video released today showing hotel guests going about their business. the business of assassination. we're going to show you who the target and suspects are ahead tonight on "360." first other important stories. poppy harlow has that. >> more questions about a killing 23 years ago involving
amy bishop, an alabama professor accused of murdering three colleagues last week. she killed her 18-year-old brother with a shotgun back in 1986. it was ruled an accident. today the retired police chief who was in charge of the initial investigation in massachusetts called the state police report of the incident deficient. he first read that report just two days ago. and a boost for nuclear power today, during a visit to a job training site in maryland. president obama announced more than $8 billion in loan guarantees for two nuclear reactors that will be built in georgia. and laughter set off by a student's question at a town hall meet with secretary of state hillary clinton in saudi arabia. >> does the prospect of sarah palin one day becoming president maybe terrify you? and if so, would you consider immigrating to canada or possibly even russia in the event of this happening?
>> the short answer is no. i will not be emigrating. i will be visiting, as often as i can. >> well played, madam secretary. i think, remember alec baldwin years ago saying he'd move to canada if president bush was elected. i think he was elected twice and he never moved. i don't think so. we'll see. >> that's true. poppi, thanks. straight ahead, things that normally take place in shadows. it's just incredible. authorities say it shows global assassination teams closing in on their victim who himself was a very dangerous man. a killer himself. they ultimately did kill him. we'll show you how it all went down, caught on tape. and what to do about dangerous adopted kids. this is just a tragic story. parents who adopted kids internationally. we're going to show you a place that takes them when it becomes too dangerous for parents. we'll be right back.
according to police, the alleged assassins, ten men and one women, arrived in dubai the day before the killing. five of them carried out the crime while the other six served as lookouts. their every move was caught on security cameras. it's fascinating footage. the question is who are the alleged killers and who ordered the hit. paula hancock investigates. >> reporter: minute by minute, this is the lead-up to the dubai assassination of one of the leading founders of hamas. all captured on security cameras and released by the emirates police. ten men and one woman. the alleged hit squad. some check into the al bustan rotana hotel. they await their target. this is one man arriving at the hotel where he would be killed just hours later. after checking in, the man israeli security sources accuse of being a key link between iran, hezbollah and hamas was followed by two alleged killers
dressed in tennis gear holding tennis rackets. the police say they were checking the number of his room, then they booked the room directly across the corridor. leaving the hotel for a couple of hours, he was again tracked by different teams. police believe the killers entered his room at 8:00 p.m. using an electronic device to gain entry. he entered his room at 8:25 p.m. his body was not discovered until the next morning. police say he appears to have suffered electric shocks and may have been suffocated. these are the suspects. all caught on camera, sparking an international manhunt. six were on british passports, three carried irish passports, one french and one german, say dubai police. but irish and british police have said the names and passport numbers of their alleged nationals are fake. the other countries are checking. at least four israelis say they have the same names as the suspects. they deny any involvement and say they are shocked their names have been used.
the question remains who ordered the hit? hamas and the family in gaza are convinced israel's intelligence agency is behind the assassination. israeli sources say al mabuh was smuggling. he was smuggling arms to gaza, so an arms dealer has had enemies. dubai's police chief says whoever is responsible will be brought to justice. he says if a state starts acting like gangsters, their leaders will be treated like gangsters and they will be brought to justice whoever and wherever they are. but even with extensive security footage and photos of 11 of the alleged hit squad, so far, no one has been arrested. and their real identities may never be known. paula hancocks, cnn, jerusalem. >> it's a fascinating case. gary bernstein say longtime operative with the cia. he joins us by the phone. 11 assassins, fake wigs, beards,
dressed up like tennis players. does this surprise you? >> well, it's not that surprising. a chechen was assassinated out in dubai on the 28th of march, 2009, just, you know, some months back. dubai is a place where a lot of bad customers you know, they travel in and out of there to do business to do their business with iran, with other countries. and with other terrorist groups. so when they enter a place like dubai, they are vulnerable. and in this particular case, this leading member of hamas is conducting operations against the israelis found himself victim to the very crafty practices. >> are there a lot of countries that have the capabilities of doing this? i mean, obviously, you know, israel is being suspected in this. obviously, you know, other developed countries. in terms of faking passports, the kind of expertise that is required to set up an operation like this. are there a lot of different people -- countries that could
actually do it? >> there are a lot of countries that can do this. a lot of private organizations that can do these types of things. when we entered kabul in 2011, we found that the taliban themselves had been doing photo substitutions on passports. they'd been doing this. it's not that complicated. it doesn't necessarily have to be the israeli government. there could be individual israelis. groups of businessmen that decided they've had it with hamas and are going to do this. it doesn't necessarily have to be the israeli security services. we've had cases where americans decided to go off and participate in operations as mercenaries. i don't see why, you know, you wouldn't see individual businessmen doing the same thing. >> were you surprised this hamas guy did not have security with him? and also, the fact that they must have had some sort of advance knowledge of the fact he was going to check into this hotel and his general schedule in terms of when he would be leaving or that he would be leaving the room. >> clearly he got sloppy and
surely they must have had people in contact with him. they had somebody that could put him on the dime, put him in place so whoever was going to kill him would know where he was at the moment he was going to be there. it's not that complicated to do. it's with -- the question is whether the government or the organization that wanted to do it had the will to do it. assassinating somebody like that is not that difficult. it's a matter of will. >> but now the dubai government has publicized the suspects' identities. were you surprised they came forward in such a public way? >> clearly they are embarrassed. this is the second assassination in about eight months there. this is not good for business for the government of dubai. that's why they would have done it. and it's, you know, they are trying to, of course, brush back the individuals that are doing this type of activity. they don't want to see it anymore. what's done is done. the cat is out of the bag.
the dubai -- the problem in dubai is they are allowing such a large volume of people who to come in and out of there. they're not checking people very well, whether they be terrorists or those pursuing terrorists. these guys are vulnerable on the ground. >> dubai is a city where everybody seems to be from somewhere else. you know, everybody comes there for one reason or another. hamas is obviously claiming israel is behind it. israel has not confirmed nor denied these accusations. does this bear the hallmark of a ma saud operation? >> could be, but there was no specific tradecraft revealed there that indicates it could have been them or could have been someone else. but, you know, likely given the information that's been presented that they would be the most likely culprits, but they won't admit either way. >> does this kind of stuff when you talk about the chechen, but does this happen a lot more than
we realize? a lot more than it's ever publicized? >> oh, yes. back in the 1990s, the late '80s, early '90s, a large number of people were assassinated out most were iranian ex-patriots. some were u.s. citizens or u.s. greencard holders murdered by the iranian islamic regime in dubai. >> there were also a couple of folks, i think if memory serves me in the '70s killed by soviet intelligence. wasn't there like somebody killed with an umbrella that was tipped -- >> that was a kgb operation where they used ricin in an umbrella and stuck the guy in the leg and killed him in the hospital several days later. the killings taking place in dubai specifically were during the early '90s. the iranian revlutionary guard core of ministry intelligence and security. the iranians are probably the largest group or state sponsors of assassinations. and they've assassinated people in thailand, in -- they've, you know, worked with groups.
different groups or branches of hezbollah to kill saudi diplomats, to do all sorts of stuff like that. and the iranians were the big culprits in this. what the israelis would call this is preventive defense. >> gary bernstein. appreciate your expertise. >> you're welcome, bye-bye. >> you can join the live chat right now. tell us what you think about this video. just ahead, adoptive parents who fear for their lives and the troubled kids who threaten them. can a ranch in montana help these kids control their rage and ultimately return to the families who promised to raise them? we're going to take you up ch s close. plus the westminster has their big dog show. we have our own ten contenders. they belong to our staffers. who should be our best in show? go to a c360.com to vote. may the best dog win. approximate
up close tonight, a story full of heartache, guilt and danger. what happens when you adopt a child that's too dangerous to raise. we are talking about adoptive parents who adopted childrens have threatened to kill them or burn down the house. it doesn't happen often, but whether it does it raises serious questions. it raises serious questions.
what would you do if you were that parent? a ranch in montana is offering some of these families hope. as gary tuchman found out there are no guarantees of a happy ending. here his report. >> reporter: 11-year-old alec is a precocious, sbelgts child. but he has said and done things and have greatly frightened his parents. >> did you threaten to hurt them? >> yeah, like -- >> what did you say to them? >> things like, i'm going to kill you. i'm going to punch you. >> reporter: beth and bill cole are alec's mom and dad. >> i adore him. i love him. i just want him to have a good future. just as normal as can be. >> reporter: this is from a videotape alec's parents gave us. they took this video because psychologists and social workers didn't necessarily believe or understand what alec has done. and now his pained parents have taken drastic measures. alec is no longer living with them in florida. he lives in montana at a ranch for deeply troubled adopted children. >> i freaked out, like almost
like every day. >> reporter: ail he alec's parents adopted him from an orphanage in belarus when he was a toddler. they also adopted their daughter lauren from the same country, who was having a much easier time in his home. >> it's like any other orphanage, basically. >> i understand completely. >> very poor. >> i understand. >> alec lives on what is known as the ranch for kids with a granmother who has raised russian orphans of her own. joyce sterkle. >> the purpose is to assist parents and children with reuniting with each other if they've had difficulties because of issues with alcohol syndrome disorder. >> reporter: like many of the 25 children at the ranch for kid, alec has dramatic mood swings. at the worst, he's violent and threatening. >> what has he said to you in terms of threats. >> the worst is that he's going to kill us. kill all of us, burn down the house. >> he's talked about wanting to blow up the house. wanting to burn down the house. wanting to get a knife to stab
us with, and we -- it seems silly, but we took the stuff to hide the knives and put them up to where he couldn't get to them. >> your parents have told the people here that you once said i'll get a gun and shoot you in the neck, then in the heart. did you say that to them? >> yes. >> how come? >> because i just get mad. >> do you remember what else you've said to them that may be mean? >> i'm going to stab them. >> huh? >> i'll stab them. >> you want to stab them? how does that make me feel that you said those things? >> sad. >> i understand. because they love you so much, right? you know what? they love you and that's the most important thing. and you love them, right? parents send their children here
for about $3500 a month because they usually don't know what else to do. >> all of our kids have been to the psychiatrist, psychologist, the therapist. they've been medicated. >> so you are saying the people that have the expertise haven't done anything for them? >> in many cases. i'm not saying all, but in many cases, those modalities failed. >> they get love here, but sometimes it's tough love. there's a lot of snow to shovel, chores to do. they go to school, where in addition to the three rs there's lessons in human relations. >> i am sad because i have been mean and treated my family. i feel sorry for the way i've treated people in the past. the end. >> it sounds like a feel-good story. it is. and it isn't. that's because the endings are not always happy ones. sometimes these children don't improve enough to go back home. other times, the parents just don't want them back. but most of the parents are desperate for their kids to get
better and come home. christopher was adopted from china when he was a toddler. >> i don't know -- >> his mother and sister also adopted in china live in florida. annika knap says she loves her son very much, but -- >> he would hit me. he would kick me. he would throw things at me. he would throw things at her. >> would he say threatening things to you? >> absolutely. >> like what? >> that he was going to hurt me. that he was going to kill me. >> now she's made a painful decision, mainly because she fears for her daughter's well-being. >> i've decided not to bring him home. >> ever? >> while we were at the ranch, joyce sterkle broke the news to christopher. >> so she's kind of talking about maybe she thinks you would be happier if you got a second chance in a new family. >> christopher was told another family in washington state is interested in adopting him. >> you have to make a decision of what's best for everybody. and i believe that this is also best for christopher. >> alec's parents have a much different outlook. is there any chance that you
would realize that maybe he would be too dangerous to be back in your family setting and that you would send him to a foster home or maybe get another family to adopt him? >> no, not at all. >> not a chance at all? >> nope. he's our son. >> so what do you want to do when you grow up? >> i really want to, like, discover new places in the world. discover new land. >> you want to be an explorer? >> yeah, i want to have like my own country that i own. like -- >> we'll call it alec land. right? >> i'm not sure about that. i may name it related to florida because that's my home, like, place. >> back at his home-like place, they hope he'll be well enough to some day come back. gary tuchman, cnn, eureka, montana. >> such an impossible situation. gary blogged about covering the ranch for kids story. read his post at ac360.com.
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well aware of. she's a pediatrician. this is pretty rare. i don't want to dissuade somebody from an international adoption. it's pretty rare this kind of thing happening, right? >> absolutely. reactive attachment disorder is exceedingly rare. although attachment disorder, different kinds of attachment issues for children who have been adopted from abroad, are pretty common. >> what is reactive attachment disorder? >> it is a rare and very serious disorder of a precaution, i can say an intense disorientation to intimacy. so the child cannot bond or connect to anyone and often becomes incredibly violent. and can threaten the lives of animals in the home or people in the home. >> and is that generally in kids who spent more time in an institution? >> the hypothesis is that the longer a child spends in an institution, the more risk there
is for them to have reactive attachment disorder. but i want to also educate the public about the fact that there are many children who don't spend an inordinate amount of time in institutions who end up with attachment disorder, particularly r.a.d., likely because they have early damage to their brain during infancy due to exposure to alcohol, malnourishment, smoking, drugs, environmental toxins and infections. so it's -- >> so there's an actual physical damage? >> there's actual organic and physical damage that now has been -- it has been studied by neuroscientists who really have analyzed and looked at the brain using c.a.t. scans, mris, p.e.t. scans, et cetera. >> so what can a parent do in a case like this. the ranch gary talked about costs $3500 a month. obviously, a lot of money for a lot of folks. >> i don't think -- i don't
think that most kids with reactive attachment disorder end up in ranch for kids, by the way. i think lots of kids under go an array of treatments. there are many therapeutic modalities that can be used for kids with attachment disorder. there are family therapy situations. there's individual therapy. play therapy. there are medications, behavioral management. therapeutic environments in schools, group work, sports, music, arts. a lot of different approaches to reactive attachment disorder. and it isn't necessarily necessary for children to go to a ranch for kids. although it is a great option if it's something the families can afford to do. >> is it common that somebody who has gone through the process of adopting decides to then give back the child? >> the concept you are talking about is disruption or disillusionment. and the range of statistics on this are very, very wide. i mean you know if you look at barth and barry's data, about 10% of adoptions will end up with disruption or disillusionment. i think it's really important
for everyone to understand that it's a -- it's rare for disruption to occur for adopted children both domestically and internationally, by the way, we also have to bring in that people do disrupt adoptions domestically. but it is last ditch. it's really at the end when people have tried many different things to try to help themselves and their families and their children that they end up disrupting. one more point i want to bring up, though is often it's not discussed from the beginning. and it's really important that families understand that that's not something we want to happen, but it's important if families are thinking about ending the adoption or not finalizing their adoption, they need to be able to have an open channel to talk with social workers and psychologists about their feelings because that's when the danger occurs. and that danger is postadoption depression and postadoption actual attachment disorder for the parent. many parents actually have attachment disorder themselves because they don't willingly accept the child's problems when they are first adopted.
and then they become depressed and they actually aid and abet attachment issues for the child. >> it's -- i mean, it's got to be devastating for everybody involved to dissolve an adoption after it's gone through the process. dr. aronson, i appreciate you being on. thanks so much. >> you're very welcome. coming up next, the end to the search for a hiker who fell into a crater of a volcano. plus, dramatic video of a landslide forced hundreds of people from their homes. and something to make you smile before maybe heading off to bed. the winner of the 360 best in show contest. that's in honor of the westminster dog show. see in your favorite dog is our top dog, next. and that their homeowners insurance... protects them. it doesn't. stop pretending. it can happen to you. protect your home with flood insurance. call the number on your screen... for your free brochure.
let's check some of the other stories we're following. a tragic story. a climber who fell into a crater of mt. st. helen's volcano on monday is now dead. the body of joseph boleg was recovered today and flown to carson, washington for an autopsy. rescuers had been trying to reach him since yesterday when he fell and slid 1500 feet into that crater. a massive mud slide in southern italy sends residents running, literally, for their lives. some 200 people were forced to flee their town monday after a hillside collapsed in the calibria region. no deaths have been reported. meantime, toyota's troubles continue. the government turned its heat up on its investigation,
ordering toyota to produce documents showing when and how it learned of the defects in roughly 6 million u.s. vehicles that have been recalled. and what a rally on wall street today. stocks soared as better-than-expected earnings reports boosted investor confidence. the dow finished up nearly 170 points. the nasdaq and s&p 500 also posted solid gains. and a week after new orleans celebrated its first super bowl win, mardi gras, you see it right there in full swing. despite the chilly weather in new orleans, revelers filled the streets of the french quarter enjoying the floats, the beads, the jazz and all that drinking that fat tuesday brings. it's a city that just lets the good times roll, right? >> certainly does. poppy, tonight's shot, well, it's gone to the dogs. >> love this one. >> 2500 dogs competing at madison square garden tonight for the westminster kennel club dog show.
the competition is tough. we can't show you the winner this year unless we want to get sued. we decided to hold our own dog show and make you the judges. all day you've been voting for the top dog of these contenders that belong to our staff. my dog is not on there. nola, star, emma, sammy, buddy and bruiser. and, all right, time for the winners. >> here we go. drum roll. >> second runner-up is buddy. he belongs to our talented associate producer devna. first runner-up -- >> sugar. >> sugar, she belongs to our executive administrative assistant joey. and the 360 best in show and the drum roll, please, nola. tom foreman's dog. >> how appropriate. nola with all the partying in new orleans right now. >> my dog didn't even make the top three. can you guess which one it is? >> that's no sad. which one is your dog? >> bruiser. >> bruiser, the bulldog. >> bruiser runs my life. it's okay, though. >> there's bruiser.
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